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WARNING: the YouTube video behind this link contains words you probably do not want your children repeating until they're old enough to vote.

A friendly little bit of song and dance about patriotic statements involving yellow ribbons.

Lifted from the anti-bush LJ community.

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foomf
Oct. 12th, 2006 05:16 am (UTC)
Actually, this same thing has happened, or something very like it, twice for certain in history.

It happened a bit differently in Germany - they were immured in an inescapable pit of war reparations, inflation, and general unemployment - but the techniques used to seize power were pretty much the same.

And it happened in Rome. They had pirates - terrorists who could swoop in at any time - and Pompey promised to fix it if they'd simply give him all the power he wanted, abolish the checks and balances, and give him control of both the armies and the navies. He got it, and he squished the pirates rather rapidly, and then he never gave back the power.

It also happened here once. The nation split, and Abraham Lincoln, the great emancipator, suspended the constitution. He suspended habeas corpus (sound familiar?), he spent money without congressional authorization, he declared a blockade without congressional authorization, he imprisoned 18,000 people without trial. There was significant doubt that he'd hold actual elections (but he did). However, at the end of the war, he undid the damage he'd done - something that the current pretender is far too stupid to be able to do.

It cost him tremendously to do all this, and in fact broke his health.

John Wilkes Booth, when he (as he saw it) struck back at a tyrant, also provided a tremendous mercy to Abe, whose health was failing (he's believed to have had Marfan Syndrome, a genetic disorder that messes up connective tissue, resulting in very elongated limbs, and damage to internal organs.)
bunny_m
Oct. 12th, 2006 05:28 am (UTC)
Yeah, good old Honest Abe, saviour of the country. Or so the propaganda goes.

Still, he did undo all of the harm he had done over the course of the war. All, that is, apart from the greatest harm of all, forcing the Confederate states to remain a part of the 'Union'. Truly, a great emancipator.
foomf
Oct. 12th, 2006 10:49 pm (UTC)
It's arguable whether it was a good or bad thing to block the secession.

However, the moral reason for blocking it was valid: they chose to secede so that they could continue to hold slaves.

As with every war, there were underlying economic motives: slavery is extremely expensive and not very cost-effective, and had a tremendous social cost, but it was entrenched in the society - the southern states literally could not grow the huge amounts of cotton that was the only significant crop, without it. The industrialized northern states wanted that cotton, and they wanted it cheap, but the British mills would buy it for about twice what the North was willing to pay.

Lincoln's plans for reconstruction included moving mills into the south, no huge reparations costs, no enforced seizure of property at random, and the whole 'carpetbagging' thing wasn't part of the plan.

Lots of conspiracy theorists like to claim that the secretary of war or the secretary of state were behind the assassination; others think it was the Rothschilds, but whatever the murky truth, the fact is that without Lincoln to restrain their greed, the parasites got to strip the south.
kwsapphire
Oct. 12th, 2006 05:29 am (UTC)
Holy crap. I had no idea. Of course, I never found history (at least, recent/american history) to be very interesting, especially political history, because for some reason it NEVER got presented in an interesting way. (However, I LOVE humanities, and would take a billion humanities classes just for fun. Go figure.)
drath
Oct. 12th, 2006 03:22 pm (UTC)
(Can't believe I typoed "conventional" twice. Trying again, original posat deleted.)

That's one thing I've never quite gotten either, not just with history but also with current events. People will say that the news never reports what is really happening, and that if we only relied on conventional media we'd never know [conservative story] this or [liberal story] that. Yet somehow, with no access to anything but conventional media news, I'm very aware of all this stuff that "never" gets covered.

Not sure what to make of it.
drath
Oct. 12th, 2006 03:23 pm (UTC)
I'm not gonna bother fixing the "posat/post" typo though... time to slow down my typing. Ack!

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